Gravity waves do not exist

[Epsilon=One]

Gravity waves that manifest as action-at-a-distance do not exist.

Notwithstanding observation, the concept of action-at-a-distance is patently ludicrous.

Gravity as conventionally described refers to at least six forces with its speed of action and metaphysical source in much dispute.

Conventional gravity between two bodies, as currently, theoretically, described, must, for each body: reach, grab, and pull . . . all at speeds that remain indefinable and irreconcilable.

Actually, Gravity is phenomena that are more closely associated with contact compression rather than non-local attraction.

Feynman had a notion,

“Is it not possible that perhaps gravitation is due simply to the fact that we do not have the right coordinate system?”

Nobel laureate, Richard Feynman,
“Lectures on Physics," chapter 12.

The phenomena that result in what manifests as Gravity is: Critical Coalescence, Confluent Congruence, and Relative, Hierarchic Compression.

The speed of Gravity’s action approaches an infinite speed. Otherwise, the smooth, rhythmic, resonating motion of the Cosmos would appear as that of ricocheting billiard balls.

Thus, there can be no doubt, in accordance with observation, that special relativity, with constant, limited speed; and, general relativity, with only two-bodies . . . are flawed.

The preponderance of observations such as: accelerating galactic recession, the cohesion of the stars within galaxies, COBE’s ultra-high-energy, background radiation; the Pioneer anomaly, and various EPR experiments leave little doubt that flaws do exist somewhere.

The nature of the phenomena of seminal motion within Pulsoids (term for two states of Light) and within Ultrons, (proto-atoms) are the concepts that satisfy Bell’s Theorem and are the missing links for the reconciliation of the ill-defined, metaphysical forces of conventional physics.

It is the continuous formation, compression, and disintegration of Ultrons, “dark” matter, that account for much of the mystery of Gravity and Light. Ultrons are ubiquitous because of internal speeds and size commensurate with the Duality of Infinity.

Conventional light, the “electromagnetic” spectrum, and atoms are phenomena that are, initially, direct byproducts of the disintegration of Ultrons that have become critically compressed within Quasars and Gamma-ray bursts.

Reality is no more than a manifestation of seminal motion as defined by the geometry and relativity of Infinity Strings that cycle through four Congeneric Realms: coalescence, propagation, compression, and dissipation . . . ad infinitum.

The laws of physics and mathematics are all derived from the relativity and conservation of said motion as defined by an understanding of Infinity as the limit of a non-additive, indivisible singularity having dual loci at the extremes of Reality. Thus, a need for the long necessitated Paradigm Shift! So be it . . . :)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons :cool: Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

If you take a Michelson Morely Interferometer, turn it so it measures on the perpendicular, to the Surface of the Earth, well, you will get a reading, Earth's Gravity, Waveform.....Provable.....as is the evidence of the Suns radiance, it shows us Gravities (waveform) activity....

Long been known that the Planet absorbs Long wave radio waves, long been known....wave absorption....that's gravity, with this particular chemistry/chemical (atomic) structuring, ergo resonance....

[Epsilon=One]

If you take a Michelson Morely Interferometer, turn it so it measures on the perpendicular, to the Surface of the Earth, well, you will get a reading, Earth's Gravity, Waveform.....Provable.....as is the evidence of the Suns radiance, it shows us Gravities (waveform) activity....

Interesting thoughts.

However, I can assure you that gravity has absolutely nothing to do with waves; other than to secure research grants.

Gravity is nowhere near being a fundamental force as are waves.

Gravity does act directly on the objects that are influenced. There is no such thing as "spooky" action-at-a-distance (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=127).

Gravity manifests, primarily, from Confluent Congruence (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=123) and Relative, Hierarchic Compression (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=124).

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV :cool:

7:56 PM 25/08/2005

So, if you try the Michelson Morley Interferometer thing, and you notice that you have a Dynamic response, well, the Manner of finding what Michelson, Morley, Sir Oliver Lodge, Dr. Einstein were looking for, is to observe the Lines, the Dark Lines, and the Light ones....so, you tell me, which ones are the Solar Influence? and which Ones are produced by the Earth's very Own GRAvitational Field? very Powerful at close proximity, you know! like at, the Surface, where it "Equals R" ('chemically Speaking' Of Course!)

Hows that for the 'Appearance' of being totally Nuts?

Epsilon=One...you have your belief's, I mine, and as 'we', well, I too know, it is the answer that is best reflected by, and/or reflecting, Physical Evidence that is the One that Usually (notwithstanding Mr. Bush...) gets promoted as the 'Correct' or 'Right' one....shall we agree to let the Evidence speak for itself? as in, if it doesn't, then I am WRONG! That is fine with me....just that, see, "LOUD AND CLEAR"...? Nope, sorta Softly with the emoted Awe......of discovery.....felt that........(?).....(proof? have NONE!)(P.ssssssst....No need....!)

Have a nice evening, Sir.

[Epsilon=One]

Epsilon=One...you have your belief's, I mine, and as 'we', well, I too know, it is the answer that is best reflected by, and/or reflecting, Physical Evidence that is the One that Usually (notwithstanding Mr. Bush...) gets promoted as the 'Correct' or 'Right' one....shall we agree to let the Evidence speak for itself? as in, if it doesn't, then I am WRONG! That is fine with me....just that, see, "LOUD AND CLEAR"...? Nope, sorta Softly with the emoted Awe......of discovery.....felt that........(?).....(proof? have NONE!)(P.ssssssst....No need....!)

Have a nice evening, Sir.

Thank you. And, you also.

The evidence is within the Natural beauty of the formulae of Unimetry (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=129).

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV :)

Originally posted by Epsilon=One
(SNIP)Gravity does act directly on the objects that are influenced. There is no such thing as "spooky" action-at-a-distance.(SNoP)

And what I can do? you don't find that as "activity (feeling) at a Distance" with No apparent connection?

(Yes, I agree, face value, it isn't as a Result of what is currently called "gravity"....O.K.! BUT.....it is! at a Distance!....but I am Glad you too don't find it "Spooky"....I don't either, it is actually quite "Normal" for me!....know any others who can do it?)

[Epsilon=One]

.....it is! at a Distance!....
I can't imagine anything that can operate "at a Distance!"; even Light; other than, Infinity, which is a locus that can only be approached.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

I can't imagine anything that can operate "at a Distance!"; even Light; other than, Infinity, which is a locus that can only be approached.
And you haven't noticed (felt) me? at a distance? Oprah confirmed, long ago, about the "Flea in the ear" thing, so there isn't much point in trying to fool me. (or your self, for that matter)

Then again, CRY FREEDOM!! :cool:

[Epsilon=One]

And you haven't noticed (felt) me? at a distance? Oprah confirmed, long ago, about the "Flea in the ear" thing, so there isn't much point in trying to fool me. (or your self, for that matter)
I do not contend that we cannot be aware of another person's "aura"; however, I do contend that if such is the case . . . it is mechanical.

The trick is to find the hyper-relativistic, "mechanical" mechanism.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

I do not contend that we cannot be aware of another person's "aura"; however, I do contend that if such is the case . . . it is mechanical.
The trick is to find the hyper-relativistic, "mechanical" mechanism.

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

Sorry but it isn't mechanical, (no 'Trick' either) it is Spiritual, it is all connected, it is "Mind Pool" and it isn't, simply, an Aura, it is Sooooooo much more...and no, you are not the only one I can do that with, essentially, just about anyone, just that there are in excess of 6 Billion People, I've simply not got the time! Followed by well, how well would you liked to have Felt/known the Mind/emotive of Someone like a J. Dahlmer?

(I didn't/don't/won't...God's Will be done!)

[Epsilon=One]

Sorry but it isn't mechanical, (no 'Trick' either) it is Spiritual, it is all connected, it is "Mind Pool" and it isn't, simply, an Aura, it is Sooooooo much more...

There is NO anthropic spirituality; as, in solipsism. There may, possibily, be hyper-relativistic "mechanical" entanglement that more than likely would be beyond our senses as presently evolved.

See: My Creed (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=90)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

There is NO anthropic spirituality; as, in solipsism. There may, possibily, be hyper-relativistic "mechanical" entanglement that more than likely would be beyond our senses as presently evolved.

See: My Creed (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=90)

So then I guess your telling me that you CANNOT feel me?......know what I could say to that?

(if your un-willing to confirm it, well, so be it, I won't stop "talking" {posting here} to you, just because of that...but the other times, might just be silent, to/with you)

BTW I have been to California, so I know it is there, still, without proof, or need of proving....

As for 'entanglement' well your going in the completely WRONG direction, this space is absent, absent of reference and/or matter (particle) which is why so few (any others at all? Not to the best of anyone else's Knowledge) can 'deal with it' as I can, "feeling Broadcast ability".....to the best of everyones Knowledge, (BY God's Grace) I am the Only one, currently living, who can perfom, in this manner, although, there have been 'others' who have been here, before me, Historically, who could do this....just like me, some of them, were put to death, for it.......

As for the "NO anthropic spirituality" well man/woman is NOT a spirit, but the Spirit in a Man/Woman, may allow him/her to act as "Voice" (mouthpiece) for that Spirit, or for the "Host, of Hosts" ergo God....The Truth....

That is what, by the Grace of that God, I know.

[Epsilon=One]

So then I guess your telling me that you CANNOT feel me?......No. I am not, at all, saying that I “CANNOT feel” you. I’m just saying that if I do, it’s mechanical. Possibly, hyper-relativistic vibes (actually oscillations); or, shared connotations of the words that we use. Whatever . . . we both exist; and, everything that has existed, does exist, or will exist, is entangled at some level.

As for 'entanglement' well your going in the completely WRONG direction, this space is absent, absent of reference and/or matter (particle) which is why so few (any others at all? Not to the best of anyone else's Knowledge) can 'deal with it' as I can, "feeling Broadcast ability".....to the best of everyones Knowledge, (BY God's Grace)Just as long as your god has no anthropic qualities. I’m not sure that “GRACE” so qualifies


I am the Only one, currently living, who can perfom, in this manner, although, there have been 'others' who have been here, before me, Historically, who could do this....just like me, some of them, were put to death, for it.......You are preaching to the choir. Outside the world of PMF, my nom de guerre is Brunardot. The “Brun” is in memory of, and in the tradition of Giordano Bruno (http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_kessler/giordano_bruno.html).

As for the "NO anthropic spirituality" well man/woman is NOT a spirit, but the Spirit in a Man/Woman, may allow him/her to act as "Voice" (mouthpiece) for that Spirit, or for the "Host, of Hosts" ergo God....The Truth....As every “quark” within us has an etiology that begins with seminal motion (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=179) or the Unified Concept (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=119) you might ascribe the mechanics to “Spirit”; I personally don’t like the connotations that go with the word “Spirit.”

That is what, by the Grace of that God, I know.
And, so, we have both spoken.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

No. I am not, at all, saying that I “CANNOT feel” you. I’m just saying that if I do, it’s mechanical. Possibly, hyper-relativistic vibes (actually oscillations); or, shared connotations of the words that we use. Whatever . . . we both exist; and, everything that has existed, does exist, or will exist, is entangled at some level.

O.K. Vibrations? Yup, across, well, what....spacetime? (NOPE)...the Medium.

(Whats that?)


Just as long as your god has no anthropic qualities. I’m not sure that “GRACE” so qualifies

Well, does Creating Humanity, Man...Woman, (All Life!) qualify? as an "Anthropic" Quality?


You are preaching to the choir. Outside the world of PMF, my nom de guerre is Brunardot. The “Brun” is in memory of, and in the tradition of Giordano Bruno (http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_kessler/giordano_bruno.html).

O.K. "The Universe Is INfiniiiiiiiiiiiiiiite!!!" (Looks around to see if any Priests/Parsons/Rabbi's/Ministers/Religious Leaders are coming at him Brandishing Blazing Tourches as to set him afire....See's None! Film at Eleven!)

2005....we no longer Burn/immolate/fry/cook/incinerate People, for Talking...leastways the Public Authorites & Religious Authorities No longer Behave in such Manners....the 'Good Ones' at least...


As every “quark” within us has an etiology that begins with seminal motion (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=179) or the Unified Concept (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=119) you might ascribe the mechanics to “Spirit”; I personally don’t like the connotations that go with the word “Spirit.”

The connotations that go along with the Word 'Spirit' which connotations are they? personal responsibility? Knowledge as impartation rather then as derived exclusively from Self...E.G.O.? The reality that Physical Motion is Spiritually imparted/performed? The Idea that there exists a Greater Authority then either you, or I, or both of us, or ALL of us, Humans....? The Idea That there is actually "Something else" in there With you, in YOUR body/Brain/Mind? Or is it simply the Idea that, God Loves You, and You cannot see that for the Light of Day, or darkness?

Which Connotations? please.....


And, so, we have both spoken.

Well actually, I did the same thing you did, i typed!....

(It's my errant sense of humor, I was the (i)D(i)ot Typissssst)

(That's pronounced; I-Dee>I-Dot>Tie>Pissssssssst!)


Somewheres "Else".....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

(SNIP) I’m just saying that if I do(SNoP)

What's up with that? :eek:

For someone who should know the meaning of 'certainty', you seem to have what? misgivings? about admitting? to a Truth? you cannot prove?....get with the Spirit of it!

(Pardon the Pun.....? :D )

Decry it! loudly! from the rooftops! as Giordano would have! Where's your Faith, in your very Own Life/living Experience? :) Huh?

[Epsilon=One]

O.K. Vibrations? Yup, across, well, what....spacetime? (NOPE)...the Medium.

(Whats that?)Oscillations; not vibrations, which are just one form of oscillation. The medium would be the Dyosphere (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=151); kinda like an all-encompassing environment of “dark” energy (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=154) in the manner of Tini Circle Groups (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=159).

Well, does Creating Humanity, Man...Woman, (All Life!) qualify? as an "Anthropic" Quality?No.

....we no longer Burn/immolate/fry/cook/incinerate People, for Talking...leastways the Public Authorites & Religious Authorities No longer Behave in such Manners....the 'Good Ones' at least...No, but, killing is still often acceptable for punishing those that speak out against "unfair" authority. Methods of silencing iconoclastic, heretical, gadflies is still quite effective; peer review, tenure, prison, derision are common examples of such suppression.

The Idea that there exists a Greater Authority then either you, or I, or both of us, or ALL of us, Humans....?I can think of no such “Greater Authority.”


The Idea That there is actually "Something else" in there With you, in YOUR body/Brain/Mind?I will not quibble with this thought; as long as “Something else” is not anthropic; I like to think of it as the concept of CASA (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=149).


Or is it simply the Idea that, God Loves You, and You cannot see that for the Light of Day, or darkness?This concept appears as a very dangerous one; as it can be twisted to a powerful force for manipulation that is counter to one’s best interests.

[Epsilon=One]

For someone who should know the meaning of 'certainty', you seem to have what? misgivings? about admitting? to a Truth? you cannot prove?....get with the Spirit of it!

Decry it! loudly! from the rooftops! as Giordano would have! Where's your Faith, in your very Own Life/living Experience? :) Huh?Brunardot prefers the manner and passion of Voltaire !

Ecrasez l'infame (Crush the evil thing).

Rallying cry at Ferney
referring to religious superstition
Voltaire (Francois Marie Arouet) [1694-1778]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

From a 'Third Party-Self reference' we get...
Brunardot prefers the manner and passion of Voltaire !

Ecrasez l'infame (Crush the evil thing).

Rallying cry at Ferney
referring to religious superstition
Voltaire (Francois Marie Arouet) [1694-1778]

Hummm, according to you (so far) "No God that involves It/Him/Her/Themselves in Human affairs" so tell me, who is the one that Knows? who is the Evil thing? to Crush? Voltaire?

(He's 'passed on' as far as I know)

So who gets to play God? (deciding Death Warrants) here, on Earth, is what I am asking you, sorta goes along with all of the rest, the direction....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

Oh yes, More New (to me) words....counting?....I'm not gonna bother


Dyosphere

and another.....

Tini Circle Groups


and this....


No, but, killing is still often acceptable for punishing those that speak out against "unfair" authority. Methods of silencing iconoclastic, heretical, gadflies is still quite effective; peer review, tenure, prison, derision are common examples of such suppression.

You seem to have not mentioned The Erroneous, The error ridden, The well intentioned-but none-the-less wrong, Those to whom Facts simply get in the way, Those who refuse to accept that their method actually DOES NOT work, all of the rest of the poeple trying to make a name for themselves, on the backs of science, who haven't a REAL CLUE what they are talking about, or those who think they have discovered something new, but are simply repeating something that was discovered Looooong ago.

Those methods also silence the Occasional Nutcase, too!

(NO! I do NOT think you are that.....O.K.?)

A guy in PF had the answer to graivty, he had gotten it Published! too, but he was Wrong! could NOT explain the pressurization of the Planets Core....but he Never Admitted Defeat, or recognition of his error, in Theory...Never! r=2 r=5 is what proved him Wrong...(Mechanical Pressure!)


I can think of no such “Greater Authority.”

Funny, I sorta Agree, after all the Infinite is Inconcievable!

....but you can feel it, right? (it is 'The Truth' Inside, YOU!)


This concept appears as a very dangerous one; as it can be twisted to a powerful force for manipulation that is counter to one’s best interests.
Couldn't agree with you more....as it is 'also Known as' Self Deception!

.......especially the (self) denial part.....

FREEDOM!

[Epsilon=One]

...according to you (so far) "No God that involves It/Him/Her/Themselves in Human affairs" so tell me, who is the one that Knows? who is the Evil thing? to Crush? Voltaire?Voltaire; and, like minded followers of the Renaissance philosophy.

...who gets to play God? (deciding Death Warrants) here, on Earth, is what I am asking you, sorta goes along with all of the rest, the direction....I respect the "mind of man."

[Epsilon=One]

… More New (to me) words....counting?....I'm not gonna bother

Dyosphere (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=151)

and another.....

Tini Circle Groups (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=159)These words were linked to their definition. I have relinked them, above, herein. Please fuss about the definitions rather than the words themselves.

You seem to have not mentioned The Erroneous, The error ridden, The well intentioned-but none-the-less wrong, Those to whom Facts simply get in the way, Those who refuse to accept that their method actually DOES NOT work, all of the rest of the poeple trying to make a name for themselves, on the backs of science, who haven't a REAL CLUE what they are talking about, or those who think they have discovered something new, but are simply repeating something that was discovered Looooong ago.

Those methods also silence the Occasional Nutcase, too!

(NO! I do NOT think you are that.....O.K.?)Thanks . . . I think.

I do enjoy a bit of certainty. But only because: I had some original ideas in late ’54 that seemed to interest future laureates, present laureates, and several very learned persons; and subsequently, was fortunate enough to discover the Elliptical Constant, a Proof of One, and Triquametric motion. When it was noticed, in my opinion, that such concepts unraveled the enigmas of theoretical physics. I found the ideas quite fascinating.

Genius lies in the
originality,
the quick recognition,
and simplicity of
salient ideas.

Hubris, wisely applied,
is a right earned by
long study and should be
reserved for those who
have introspective
intelligence . . . and wit.

Funny, I sorta Agree, after all the Infinite is Inconcievable!

....but you can feel it, right? (it is 'The Truth' Inside, YOU!)


Couldn't agree with you more....as it is 'also Known as' Self Deception!

.......especially the (self) denial part.....

FREEDOM!I may agree with something in the kernel of what you are saying,

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

These words were linked to their definition. I have relinked them, above, herein. Please fuss about the definitions rather than the words themselves.

Hummm weren't you the Person who told me Fifty New Concepts? If Half of them find newness of defintion, the minmium of Twenty Five (25) Neologisms?
New things? for me to learn.....


Thanks . . . I think.

Your Welcome....I think


I do enjoy a bit of certainty. But only because: I had some original ideas in late ’54 that seemed to interest future laureates, present laureates, and several very learned persons; and subsequently, was fortunate enough to discover the Elliptical Constant, a Proof of One, and Triquametric motion. When it was noticed that such concepts unraveled the enigmas of theoretical physics, in my opinion. I found the ideas quite fascinating.

Interesting......

Genius lies in the
originality,
the quick recognition,
and simplicity of
salient ideas.

Hubris, wisely applied,
is a right earned by
long study and should be
reserved for those who
have introspective
intelligence . . . and wit.

Uhmmm personally I have found that all scientific Genius lies in proper description of the Existent Reality, AKA the Physical Truth, ergo, if we add in all of the rest of what that "Truth" can be/is as concept/concievable/concievablities (Mindspace items...include emotives, Please) then, we see the Truth/TheGenius=The Creator, as that is Origin! in My personal Belief/trust/Faith....thereafter, we deal with the humans (that God 'Acts' through) who bring to humanity these greater, or better, descriptions of existent reality (Physical Reality) that are recognizable, BY ALL, as, 'Self Evident Truths'....those People get recognized, as Genius!


I may agree with something in the kernel of what you are saying,

Beware your treacherous Heart as it can decieve you.....ergo use your mind to assist you heart to know which emotive truths to follow.....all Wisdom Comes from God, all else, is Human Folley......."Partiality of Truth" made manifest, as Wise........

[Epsilon=One]

...weren't you the Person who told me Fifty New Concepts? If Half of them find newness of defintion, the minmium of Twenty Five (25) Neologisms?
New things? for me to learn.....Wisdom does not come without effort.
Genius lies in the
originality,
the quick recognition,
and simplicity of
salient ideas.

Hubris, wisely applied,
is a right earned by
long study and should be
reserved for those who
have introspective
intelligence . . . and wit.

Uhmmm personally I have found that all scientific Genius lies in proper description of the Existent Reality, AKA the Physical Truth, ergo, if we add in all of the rest of what that "Truth" can be/is as concept/concievable/concievablities (Mindspace items...include emotives, Please) then, we see the Truth/TheGenius=The Creator, as that is Origin! in My personal Belief/trust/Faith....thereafter, we deal with the humans (that God 'Acts' through) who bring to humanity these greater, or better, descriptions of existent reality (Physical Reality) that are recognizable, BY ALL, as, 'Self Evident Truths'....those People get recognized, as Genius!I am in complete agreement; providing that your "Creator"/"God" is without any anthropic qualities.

....all Wisdom Comes from God, all else, is Human Folley......."Partiality of Truth" made manifest, as Wise........See above comment re: "God."

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

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Wisdom does not come without effort.Uhmmm did I suggest that it did? Sorry? Uhmmm.....? but, how is coming up with new terms, "Wise"?

I am in complete agreement; providing that your "Creator"/"God" is without any anthropic qualities."Anthropic Qualities", you mean like agreement coming/Originating out of a Human Being, but can you do that without "Anthropic Qualities"

See above comment re: "God."Yes, do, please....my last question. :)

[Epsilon=One]

...how is coming up with new terms, "Wise"?I don't see it as a question of being "wise"; only as a question of succinct necessity.

..."Anthropic Qualities", you mean like agreement coming/Originating out of a Human Being,Yes. Such qualities are not of a singularity.

...but can you do that without "Anthropic Qualities"No.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

I don't see it as a question of being "wise"; only as a question of succinct necessity. but your responce implied it, surely you too can see that.....

Yes. Such qualities are not of a singularity. So you think God is an inpassive-impassionate-unfeeling-unloving well, sorta Dead thing/God right?

No.Hummm usually I find when a persons doesn't want a belief in a God, it is usually because they, somehow, see 'themselves' as well, the reason why......and it isn't right!

[Epsilon=One]

...So you think God is an inpassive-impassionate-unfeeling-unloving well, sorta Dead thing/God right?Well, yes; except not "dead"; except in a biological sence.

I find the singularity the source of all activity.
See: Infinity, (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=109)

Hummm usually I find when a persons doesn't want a belief in a God, it is usually because they, somehow, see 'themselves' as well, the reason why......and it isn't right!I believe more strongly in god than anyone that I have ever known of.
See: Proof of God (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=150).

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

Well, yes; except not "dead"; except in a biological sence.
I find the singularity the source of all activity.
See: Infinity, (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=109)O.K. then but as I have attempted to point out, the Infinite Can Not be a Concept/conceptualized, ergo a Singularity = a concept, even if the self deceptive notion of it being "Un-imaginably Small" is applied as such a thought belies the ability of the imagination to do Scale, which it can do, does do, very well, ergo anything that is Imaginable, or even Imaginary! can Be Drawn on a sheet of paper, a singularity is represented by an infinitesmally small point, scale it and it is this Dot! >.< there between the <arrows>......so, if Infinite, therefore not a Concept, A singularity, concievable, cannot be the right response/answer.

As for Biologically dead, well, all of the trees (Organisms) are still 'living' ergo the God I am Aware of, is still alive, & well, Happy? well, not if he watches his children's (Us!) actions, probably not....but there, and LIVING! none the less, "Eternal" I had heard, lives Forever.....as in NO time!


I believe more strongly in god than anyone that I have ever known of.
See: Proof of God (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=150).Hi! My Name is Mr. Robin Parsons....so you could be wrong, you could be right, you could be..............? :cool: ?

[Epsilon=One]

...as I have attempted to point out, the Infinite Can Not be a Concept/conceptualized, ergo a Singularity = a concept, even if the self deceptive notion of it being "Un-imaginably Small" is applied as such a thought belies the ability of the imagination to do Scale, which it can do, does do, very well, ergo anything that is Imaginable, or even Imaginary! can Be Drawn on a sheet of paper, a singularity is represented by an infinitesmally small point, scale it and it is this Dot! >.< there between the <arrows>......so, if Infinite, therefore not a Concept, A singularity, concievable, cannot be the right response/answer.I agree that Infinity, itself, not the definition, cannot be a percept; as percepts exist; and, Infinity does not. However, obviously, you do not understand the definition of a singularity; as there can only be one singularity; it would seem appropriate to so label a limit that can be only approached, or god, as such . . . mamely a singularity. Though, my personal preference is the word: Oneness.

A singularity is defined, thus:
1.) The quality or condition of being singular.

2.) A trait marking one as distinct from others; a peculiarity.
.....Something uncommon or unusual.

3.) Astrophysics.
.....A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted.

4.) Mathematics.
.....A point at which the derivative does not exist for a given function but every neighborhood of which contains points for which the derivative exists. Also called singular point.

All the above definitions fit my god just fine: that which creates all; and, that which is omnipresent.

As for Biologically dead, well, all of the trees (Organisms) are still 'living' ergo the God I am Aware of, is still alive, & well, Happy? well, not if he watches his children's (Us!) actions, probably not....but there, and LIVING! none the less, "Eternal" I had heard, lives Forever.....as in NO time!Obviously, we have different a different god; and, just as obviously, each of us has great love for their god above all else.

....so you could be wrong, you could be right, you could be..............? :cool: ?It is not a question of wrong or right. It is a question of who has the greatest doubt concerning the truth of their god.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV
I agree that Infinity, itself, not the definition, cannot be a percept; as percepts exist; and, Infinity does not. However, obviously, you do not understand the definition of a singularity; as there can only be one singularity; it would seem appropriate to so label a limit that can be only approached, or god, as such . . . mamely a singularity. Though, my personal preference is the word: Oneness.
A singularity is defined, thus:
1.) The quality or condition of being singular.
2.) A trait marking one as distinct from others; a peculiarity.
.....Something uncommon or unusual.
3.) Astrophysics.
.....A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted.
4.) Mathematics.
.....A point at which the derivative does not exist for a given function but every neighborhood of which contains points for which the derivative exists. Also called singular point.
All the above definitions fit my god just fine: that which creates all; and, that which is omnipresent. All of this? simply to tell me to "draw a Circle"? God is NOT 'a Circle'.....O.K.?

The Infinite is Inconcievable, yet it is Sensate...it is probably more your mind that would draw you away from it, then lead you to it, it is your heart that finds the pathway (as it is led, there) when it properly conjoins with mind.

Obviously, we have different a different god; and, just as obviously, each of us has great love for their god above all else. Far as I know there is only one. (Psssst! Mindfully-Loving! TOO!)

It is not a question of wrong or right. It is a question of who has the greatest doubt concerning the truth of their god.The 'guaranteed!' pathway of the Un-certain, (Seeks the Greatest Doubt) as what is shown is the path that was taken that Had No Faith, thereafter, all that would ever be left, would be, the Doubt that only faith could have eased....so it is left/remains as Dis(sing)ease(?)

Have a Nice! day, Sir. :cool:

[Epsilon=One]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV
All of this? simply to tell me to "draw a Circle"? God is NOT 'a Circle'.....O.K.?Depends entirely upon how you define a circle . . . or, what it may symbolize.

The Infinite is Inconcievable, yet it is SensateInconceivable: O.K. Sensate: Absolutely not.


...it is probably more your mind that would draw you away from it, then lead you to it, it is your heart that finds the pathway (as it is led, there) when it properly conjoins with mind.You are hardly qualified to make assumptions concerning my mind and heart. I resent the presumptions.


Far as I know there is only one. (Psssst! Mindfully-Loving! TOO!)
The 'guaranteed!' pathway of the Un-certain, (Seeks the Greatest Doubt) as what is shown is the path that was taken that Had No Faith, thereafter, all that would ever be left, would be, the Doubt that only faith could have eased....so it is left/remains as Dis(sing)ease(?)Let's just agree to disagree; we are wasting the viewers' time.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Depends entirely upon how you define a circle . . . or, what it may symbolize.Insert quotation of the Honorable 42nd President of the United States of America, That he doesn't want me Citing(?) "......your defintion of........is!" what it symbolizes is called a C-o-n-c-e-p-t....or would you prefer we invent a new word?

Inconceivable: O.K. Sensate: Absolutely not.O.K. so I accept that you can Neither Feel, Nor Know (no Mind!) Your God....in My reality people can admit to feeling the Spirit(s) within themselves, and to 'knowing' that there is a God, and That God is One they can Have Faith in, loving Trusting Faith.....just, don't trust the poeple....too much, Trust God!

You are hardly qualified to make assumptions concerning my mind and heart. I resent the presumptions.Where? please, did I presume about YOUR personal 'Heart and Mind' other then to tell 'all reading' of what is available/availably knowable and known? My intent(ion) is Generalization of what Human 'Mind' Does.....frequently......

Let's just agree to disagree; we are wasting the viewers' time.Well, if you wish to agree to disagree, Who am I? to question that? but! please, do not Pressume to speak for "all" of the Audience, maybe you are wasting there time, personally, I try Not to.

'They' might have learend a thing or two about me from reading all of this, after all, some of the readers, of this, live in this Community, (Kingston) I have met some of them.....do you? Epsilon=One speak for them? too? want me to check with them?.....Still won't admit you can feel me, and, clearly, my having done that, has never frightened you......so, we go now

Enjoy the Spirit of the Moment...it's your life, my life, everyones life Force within them, Spirit, Just ask a (Canadian) First Nations Person, especially one with elder knowledge, they knew there were Spirits, and they wondered why white people wouldn't admit to something that, well, everyone knew they could feel 'it' but not prove 'it' physically......They thought we were kinda "lacking in knowledge" for that one....they were right!

Or maybe Self-Honesty is really what they were lacking? what do you think?

[Epsilon=One]

O.K. so I accept that you can Neither Feel, Nor Know (no Mind!) Your God....Quite an assumption you are assuming. It is completely false.

...in My reality people can admit to feeling the Spirit(s) within themselves, and to 'knowing' that there is a God, and That God is One they can Have Faith in, loving Trusting Faith.....just, don't trust the poeple....too much, Trust God!I quite agree. Only my god can't feel, know, love or trust. With "My Creed (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=90)," it is a one-way street.

Where? please, did I presume about YOUR personal 'Heart and Mind'...See your prior post: "...it is probably more your mind that would draw you away from it, then lead you to it, it is your heart that finds the pathway (as it is led, there) when it properly conjoins with mind."

...the Audience...might have learend a thing or two about me from reading all of this...I would expect so

...some of the readers, of this, live in this Community, (Kingston) I have met some of them.....do you? Epsilon=One speak for them? too? want me to check with them?....Your "check"ing with them is your call. The larger the audience the better.

As for myself, I speak only for myself . . . with the hope that others may become involved.

...(Canadian) First Nations Person, especially one with elder knowledge, they knew there were Spirits, and they wondered why white people wouldn't admit to something that, well, everyone knew they could feel 'it' but not prove 'it' physically......They thought we were kinda "lacking in knowledge" for that one....they were right!Concerning the lack of knowledge of the interlopers, they were, and are, quite wise.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Quite an assumption you are assuming. It is completely false. Uhmmm it is Based ENTIRELY upon ONLY what YOU have told me, sooooo......it must be you? who is doing the misleading? P.S. It is a deduction from YOUR writings NOT an Assumption

I quite agree. Only my god can't feel, know, love or trust. With my creed: it is a one-way street.So then, either, your God cannot know you, or, you cannot know your God, either way, It is a Pathway of the Lost.

See your prior post: "...it is probably more your mind that would draw you away from it, then lead you to it, it is your heart that finds the pathway (as it is led, there) when it properly conjoins with mind."As I had previously stated, (something you seem to have choosen to ignore) A "generalization" written in Full knowledge of a Larger then "Just" 'you' audience......reading.

I would expect soapparenlty you too, but, I see, still no admission to feeling me......why?

Your "check"ing with them is your call. The larger the audience the better.Hummm should I also check out what I can feel from them? would you? God's GRACE! I've no need, especially since most of them don't make any effort, at all, ever.....most of the people, here, who would call me their "friend" are such, usually only If I make the effort, they don't seem to be willng to make any effort at contacting me...acting like a friend, anything, ever....tells! really tells!...of them!

As for myself, I speak only for myself . . . with the hope that others may become involved.Funny, cause it is NOT the way you wrote it, nor is it the way it comes across......

Concerning the lack of knowledge of the interlopers, they were, and are, quite wise.The interlopers? your precedents (ancestors, Mine too) the people who are Native to the face of the Planet, just like everyone else, Interloping? where?

[Epsilon=One]

Uhmmm it is Based ENTIRELY upon ONLY what YOU have told me, sooooo......it must be you? who is doing the misleading? P.S. It is a deduction from YOUR writings NOT an AssumptionPlease, you are wasting time with drivel. This is not a "he said/she said" forum. Try to restrain your comments to some scientific or philosophical facts and let the drivel fall where it may, for others to judge. Time is of the essence.

To the point of your drivel: I have never said that I don’t know my god. I have often, strongly, said just the opposite. In fact, I know my god better than any other person that I have ever met, knows there god. If you have gotten any different impression from my words, either I misspoke, or, you misinterpreted. Should you know where it is that I misspoke, please advise; and, I will immediately correct my words.

I do not appreciate having words “put in my mouth.”

So then, either, your God cannot know you, or, you cannot know your God, either way, It is a Pathway of the Lost.My god cannot “know” me. If I am lost, so be it. I find my way preferable to having to rely upon large amounts of faith.

… I see, still no admission to feeling me......why?This is what I mean by drivel.

And you are wrong. I have said that I can feel you (I feel much of what seems to be pain), at least, through your words.

Funny, cause it is NOT the way you wrote it, nor is it the way it comes across......More drivel.

If you can tell me how to more clearly state that: “I speak only for myself . . . with the hope that others may become involved.” I will so state it.

The interlopers? your precedents (ancestors, Mine too) the people who are Native to the face of the Planet, just like everyone else, Interloping? where? The drivel continues.

I was agreeing with your statement concerning “white people” and “First Nations Person.” You should know that I consider the “white people” the interlopers. I am sorry if my term doesn’t agree with your thoughts.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

:eek: From flattery......to insult, :eek: well musta been a "nice trip" for you!

(:cool: for me, God's Grace! I know, now, what I needed to know!)

Sir someone who tells me that their "God" 'can neither feel, nor think' then proceeds to tell me that, they "know this God" well, Sir, I won't bother writing the Drivel out for you, such that, that is, simply a HUGE LIE!

Have a Nice life! Day! Time! Whatever?....!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

P.S. Sir, please! be very careful, cause... "What you see in others, is the truth, as it arises, from within you"

When talking to one with a Mirroring ability (such as myself) you should be very careful that you don't err in your judgement, of them, by, truthfully! pointing out yourself! thinking (falsely) it is them.

What a Joke, you can 'feel me, from my words" "buddy" you are right! a JACKASS is a very difficult thing to lead, but, sometimes, a Man! is even More Difficult! sometimes, esssssssspecially!!! if/when that man 'thinks' himself as educated.

C-YA :cool:

[Epsilon=One]

...I know, now, what I needed to know!...

Have a Nice life! Day! Time! Whatever?....!Thank you!

[Epsilon=One]

C-YA :cool:Bye!........

[metropolis]

Not that I use the same software - but Saiteks profiler and "Test Profile" tends to show the wrong results due to keyboard layouts.
But ingame within DCS it works correct.

Maybe youre seeing some of the same effects?