decreasing of binary pulsar speed without gravitational waves ?!

[amrit]

We can calculate Fg in the centre of the neutron star by the formula:
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4943

Fg = (m x D) m10^-2

where m is a mass of the particle
and D = M x G

where M is a mass of the star and
G is gravitational constant and is not variable
Fg is big enough to brake down other forces.

When the star has mass enough gravitation into the centre is strong enough to prevail all other forces and so particles transform back into QS of space. This causes diminishing of mass of the star. Neutron star is eating itself. Neutron star is a fabric where matter transforms back into space.

Decreasing of the duration of motion of the orbital period of the binary pulsar PRS1913+16 is the result of matter transforming back into space in the centre of one star. This diminishes the mass of the star, diminishing of the mass causes diminishing of the speed of rotation, with diminishing of the speed the duration of motion on the orbit is increasing.

Neutron star is eating itself. When the star has mass enough gravitation into the centre is strong enough to prevail all other forces and so particles transform back into QS of space. This causes diminishing of mass of the star.
According to this interpretation gravitational waves do not exist, they are only a math speculation

[Epsilon=One]

We can calculate Fg in the centre of the neutron star by the formula:

Fg = (m x D) m10^-2

where m is a mass of the particle
and D = M x G

where M is a mass of the star and
G is gravitational constant and is not variable
Fg is big enough to brake down other forces.

When the star has mass enough gravitation into the centre is strong enough to prevail all other forces and so particles transform back into QS of space.

Neutron star is eating itself. When the star has mass enough gravitation into the centre is strong enough to prevail all other forces and so particles transform back into QS of space.

The “gravitational constant” is quite controversial. It is little more than a contrivance based on classical concepts that are simplistic and not reconcilable to observable gravitational effects.

Above conclusions, based upon neutron stars being where “matter transforms back into space,” give the impression that this matter dissipates within a neutron star. It is the opposite that occurs.

Neutron stars are objects of compression.


…gravitational waves do not exist…I agree.

[amrit]

Hi all members of this Forum. I publish few post regarding GW in several web sites on physics:

1. here

2. PhysOrgForum Physics and Technology Forum

3. Science forums Debate

From today I have no access any more to sites 2 and 3, they block me.
For sure someone from the GW lobby calls and so a freedom of expressing an alternative view regarding gravity is over.

If my ideas of gravitation would have no sense, they would not carry at all. But as they become aware that GW research has no base at all, they try to stop me:

1. we do not know which part matter emits GW, we do not know which part receive them
2. GW should travel from the sun to the earth about 8 minutes

how can a wave that in on the middle way from the sun to the earth keep them together ?

sun--------------------GW------------------earth

how can a physical entity keep together two material objects with which it is not into physical contact ?

I asked that question yesterday on the forum 2 and 3 and from today on I’m out.

Beside me Prof Loinger from Milan University considers GW pure math speculation. It is not a problen here that GW does not exist, the problem is that I cant express that in a free democratic way. Are we going back into the middle age ?!

My best wishes to GW lobby.
1000-1500 physicists on this globe are searching for GW spending millions of euro monthly searching for a black cat into a dark room.......!!!

Amrit Sorli, Spacelife Institute, Italy (founder)

[Epsilon=One]

...I...post regarding GW in several web sites on physics:

1. here

2. PhysOrgForum Physics and Technology Forum

3. Science forums Debate

From today I have no access any more to sites 2 and 3, they block me.This is understandable. Consider it a "badge of honor." However, you must be careful when presenting alternative opinion that your thoughts are carefully defined and internally consistent; otherwise, you'll be easily dismissed and lumped with crackpots, or worse . . . academic, theoretical physicists.

More than a billion dollars has been spent or budgeted at Caltech for gravity wave (GW) research, which is just the tip of the iceberg throughout the "physics business." If gravity wave research is eliminated, jobs in physics would be decimated more so than the cancellation of the Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) in 1993.

I have been persona non-grata in the physics department at University of California, Irvine (UCI) for about 15 years largely because of a manuscript I wrote, "Infinite Dynamics, the duality of gravity's action" that proposed an alternative gravitational theory that predicted the acceleration of the expanding Universe before it was accepted by peer review. Today I refer to the phenomenon as Relatrive, Hierarchic Compression (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=124) (RHC). Also, Confluent Congruence (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=123) (CC) has to do with the speed of gravity's effects being hyper-relativistic.

we do not know which part matter emits GW, we do not know which part receive themGravity waves do not exist.

GW should travel from the sun to the earth about 8 minutesNo. The effects of gravity are hyper-relativistic . . . the effects are at an infinite speed because of Confluent Congruence (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=123).

how can a physical entity keep together two material objects with which it is not into physical contact ?The answer is simple. It can't.

I asked that question yesterday on the forum 2 and 3 and from today on I’m out.If your question could be answered or refuted, you probably would not be out.

Beside me Prof Loinger from Milan University considers GW pure math speculation.Don't give mathematics a bad name because of the failure of theoretical physics. I consider the current understanding of gravity as a result of delusional observation that lacks philosophical logic.

It is not a problen here that GW does not exist, the problem is that I cant express that in a free democratic way.I agree.

Are we going back into the middle age ?!No, much further back. Gravity logic has not progressed much from the superstitious mythology before the history of man.

Welcome to the world of academic, theoretical physics and peer review.

1000-1500 physicists on this globe are searching for GW spending millions of euro monthly searching for a black cat into a dark room.......!!!And, you think a post or two, with little logic, in a forum will make a difference? I've been at it with worldclass physicists for over 50 years. The only progress I've made, is that I now know with certainty, thanks to Feynman and the HST, that no one in academia that has gone through peer review has a clue as to what gravity is.

[amrit]

Yes GW lobby is ignoring all other theories of gravity that excludes existence of GW.
And they give a Nobel for discovery of speed diminishing of binary pulsar explaining it with GW.
That’s the most impressive.
After 20 years with no results they manage to deliver Nobel for GW before discovered. After Nobel was delivered they ask more money.

In the history of Nobel Prize this is the first time:
to give a Nobel in physics for something that was not detected experimentally yet.

all this is a bed joke actually
money moves the world seems to function in physics also

[amrit]

How can be that 1000 best physicists search for GW that do not exist ?
In a process of scientific education we only teach people how to think,
we do not teach them to be aware of the way they think
So most students take knowledge for guaranteed, they do not reflect upon the scientific models presented in courses of physics

We need a seminar for every PhD course in theoretical physics: “Watching the Mind As A Research Tool”.

The awareness that the mental process is creating a scientific theory includes the “sense for real”.

According to this “sense for real” no physical entity can keep together two object without being into contact with them.Understanding of gravitation is deeply related with the understanding of time and motion. In the base formula of gravitation there is no symbol t (t indicates duration of motion)

Fg = (m1 x m2 x G) / r on square

Fg = (D1 x D2) / G x r on square (D = m x G)

This means that for gravitation to exist no motion of particle or wave is needed. Gravitation is a non propagating force. It acts between QS of cosmic space in a Planck radius.Let’ see how much time will take GW lobby to get that simple fact ??!!

[Epsilon=One]

We need a seminar for every PhD course in theoretical physics: “Watching the Mind As A Research Tool”.

The awareness that the mental process is creating a scientific theory includes the “sense for real”.What does this mean? Are you saying that nothing exists without the “mind”? Is the term “sense for real” analogous to fundamental truth . . . philosophical logic?

According to this “sense for real” no physical entity can keep together two object without being into contact with them.I assume that gravity wave theorists consider that GWs contact the objects that they influence.

Understanding of gravitation is deeply related with the understanding of time and motion. In the base formula of gravitation there is no symbol t (t indicates duration of motion)

Fg = (m1 x m2 x G) / r on square

Fg = (D1 x D2) / G x r on square (D = m x G)

This means that for gravitation to exist no motion of particle or wave is needed.This is just wrong. These formulas are simplistic symbols that don’t begin to describe gravity’s complex actions. Some problems with these formulas are that they don’t account for accelerating, galactic recession, the Pioneer anomaly, and the “many body” problem.

Gravitation is a non propagating force. It acts between QS of cosmic space in a Planck radius.Let’ see how much time will take GW lobby to get that simple fact ??!!I doubt if they will ever “get that simple fact,” as it is not correct; gravity’s actions are much more complex. The contrived Planck radius is irrelevant over Cosmic distances. I would consider the illusional attraction of gravity’s effects, loosely, as a propagating force because it acts in accordance with the Inverse Square Law.

Your equations do nothing for explaining "Why?" gravity "works." Exactly what is the action between "QS of cosmic space"? Does gravity "reach," "grasp," or "pull"? All of them or none of them?

[amrit]

Gravitation glue together QS of space. Gravitational force is like a glue. It is not fix, it is flexible. The connection between QS is flexible, QS distribution around body or particle is flexible, space is flexible.

QS of space at the moon are connected with the QS of space at the earth by the all QS between them. Gravitation is not propagating force. It is a force that acts between QS of space that are in a direct contact.
Like a living chain of peple which hols hands can keep together two objects.

There is a friction between density D of space and density Dp of particle moving into space. This friction causes the diminishing of speed motion (time).

Diminishing of clock speed predicted by SR and GR is measured in several experiments. Space is flexible and has a certain density D. A Clock speed diminishing is occurring because of the space friction.

A photon has no mass and no density Dp, so photons moves with the light speed, no "space friction" by photon. All mass particles have a density Dp and by moving also its density moves with it. Because of that mass particles can not move with a light speed. The "space friction" prevent them to reach light speed.

D = M x G

D is density of space
M is a mass of the planet or star
G is grav constant

Dp = m x G

Dp is the density of space into particle because of its mass m
m is mass of particle
G is gravitational constant

Density Dp of particle or body is into friction with density D of the space into which it moves. Bigger density bigger space friction.

On the sea side density D of space is bigger than on the top of the mountain.Atomic clock moves with slower speed at the sea side because “space friction" is bigger. On the macro level “space friction” causes the Mercury perihelion dilate.

Higher the density, bigger the friction. In the centre of the black hole space friction is so strong that no motion is possible, the speed of motion (time) is zero.

formula above is basic, see development on the file attached send to you

[Epsilon=One]

Gravitation glue together QS of space. Gravitational force is like a glue. It is not fix, it is flexible. The connection between QS is flexible, QS distribution around body or particle is flexible, space is flexible.
There is a friction between density D of space and density Dp of particle moving into space.This is ridiculous. Glue does not begin to describe the complexities of gravities action. What is the “glue” made of? How does it “hold”? How does it account for “negative” gravity? Are you subscribing to a belief in gluons?

Diminishing of clock speed predicted by SR and GR is measured in several experiments.What is “clock speed”? Are you saying that time diminishes? If so, why? The speed of a "clock" has to do with relative time; not time itself.

Space is flexible and has a certain density D. A Clock speed diminishing is occurring because of the space friction.How do you define space? Does “space friction” come from space being composed of particles?

A photon has no mass and no density Dp, so photons moves with the light speed, no "space friction" by photon.What is a photon? Is it a particle? Is it a point? Is it a small spheroid? Your statements are meaningless without establishing some fundamental definitions.

All mass particles have a density Dp and by moving also its density moves with it. Because of that mass particles can not move with a light speed. The "space friction" prevent them to reach light speed.How would you explain the non-locality of subatomic phenomena without particles moving at hyper-relativistic speeds?

Higher the density, bigger the friction. In the centre of the black hole space friction is so strong that no motion is possible, the speed of motion (time) is zero.Let’s end this with agreeing to disagree. You repeat the same arguments without ever addressing any of my questions.

I must assume that your theories cannot account for what confuses me.

Your theories, at best, are meaningless to me because I cannot relate them to either observation or logic.

formula above is basic, see development on the file attached send to youPlease post file so that others may judge.

[amrit]

let's see what other think.

PS Epsilon it seems i can not attach the article.
can you please post it.

yours, amrit

[Epsilon=One]

i can not attach the article.
can you please post it.I will need another computer setup than what I have available now.

I will try to get access in a day or two.

Are you certain you want me to? If I go to that much trouble, I won't be able to resist commenting on what you have obviously spent much time.

Some conclusions are admirable; but, for all the effort they may as well be postulates.