Anger

[Identity]

What is it about anger that makes it be?
Why is it that an emotion exists which is destructive?
If happiness feels so good, why is it sometimes so hard to achieve?
Why does anger fit so comfortably on some people?
I hate anger.
It makes me so...angry.

I think it's confusion, or to do with confusion. I think people who don't understand, get angry. It's an ego thing.
I think that there is the finest line between one person's line of thought from any other person's. And I think that any one person could understand any other person completely with the most minute amount of effort; if only that effort was so directed.
At the same time I understand the vast differences between each and every one of us. It's one of those paradoxical dualities.
I think people think that the differenes between us come down to the nuances and idiosyncracies which define us, but perhaps its more to do with our environment that makes us different from each other. For example, imagine being born on a different planet amongst beings unlike us; our potential may allow us to adapt to this environment and succeed in such a way that we would not resemble ourselves as we are on this planet.
But I just don't know.

[Epsilon=One]

But I just don't know.You seem to know quite a bit.

[bpj1138]

Anger can be explained in evolutionary terms. If you didn't get angry and for example fight animals that were eating your food, then you'd stave to death. Anger simply makes you react and take care of problems in your life, it's quite a good adaptation.

[Epsilon=One]

Anger simply makes you react and take care of problems in your life, it's quite a good adaptation.I agree; anger is a great motivator.

I have been angry at the unreasonableness of many senior academics for a lifetime.

What seems important, when civilized, is that one recognizes one's anger such that it can be properly channelled for society's benefit rather than into otherwise destructive actions.

[bpj1138]

The problem with our society is that we have a bunch of thugs and then billions of lemmings that only get angry but don't do anything about it, mostly fearing physical or financial retaliation. So, it's yet another reason why we find ourselves in the present situation.

[Identity]

The problem with our society is that we have a bunch of thugs and then billions of lemmings that only get angry but don't do anything about it, mostly fearing physical or financial retaliation. So, it's yet another reason why we find ourselves in the present situation.

So in todays world anger is generally only destructive and in that regard it would seem beneficial to the survival of our sytem, our society, that we 'de-evolve', eliminate anger. Although it's pretty much impossible for us to adapt in such a way, so that we omit anger from ourselves, when we live in such an aggressive world. It's a self destructive loop. Not good.

[bpj1138]

So in todays world anger is generally only destructive

What is destructive is passiveness, not anger. Anger is only an indicator that something is wrong and one should act.


and in that regard it would seem beneficial to the survival of our sytem, our society, that we 'de-evolve', eliminate anger. Although it's pretty much impossible for us to adapt in such a way, so that we omit anger from ourselves, when we live in such an aggressive world. It's a self destructive loop. Not good.

What is needed is to evolve into a state where we act when confronted by evil.

--Bart

[Identity]

What is destructive is passiveness, not anger. Anger is only an indicator that something is wrong and one should act.


What is needed is to evolve into a state where we act when confronted by evil.

--Bart

I think you are mistaking anger with reason.
When confronted by evil it is reasonable to act on it in order to be rid of it. But at the same time, when confronted by evil it does not necessarily mean that we are made to be angry and if we are made to be angry it does not mean that we are going to do anything about it. Instead our anger may be effortless and may fester and indeed fuel the evil.

[bpj1138]

I think you are mistaking anger with reason.
When confronted by evil it is reasonable to act on it in order to be rid of it.


Hrm, it's reasonable to sacrifice one person for the greater good of many people, but is it ethical?


But at the same time, when confronted by evil it does not necessarily mean that we are made to be angry and if we are made to be angry it does not mean that we are going to do anything about it. Instead our anger may be effortless and may fester and indeed fuel the evil.


We were made to do something about it, but in my opinion, in recent decades, the concious mind has been programmed by our society to override the subconcious mind.

In other words, people today are taught to be passive in order to maximize their... let's say "profits". This in turn creates the internal struggle (or "festering" as you call it).

Your answer is to sever the subconcious mind and become a robot or a zombie. You're simply running away from the problem, because you'd rather not deal with the pain. You can do that in two ways.. one is lobotomy, the other is drug use.

--Bart

[Epsilon=One]

I agree with the wisdom of bpj1138.

[Identity]

We were made to do something about it, but in my opinion, in recent decades, the concious mind has been programmed by our society to override the subconcious mind.

In other words, people today are taught to be passive in order to maximize their... let's say "profits". This in turn creates the internal struggle (or "festering" as you call it).
I agree with some of what you say, but in the world I see there is a lot of aggression and there are things happening which are for profit but which are not passive.
I believe what you say about anger being an evolutionary tool for survival but I think that there is more to it than that. Anger in our society today does not keep us alive. As civilised people we can see the purpose of anger in our past and also we can ask ourselves what purpose does it serve us now? I definately don't think that it achieves anything as positive as our survival.


Your answer is to sever the subconcious mind and become a robot or a zombie. You're simply running away from the problem, because you'd rather not deal with the pain. You can do that in two ways.. one is lobotomy, the other is drug use.

--Bart
I don't have an answer, I'm looking for answers.

[bpj1138]

I agree with some of what you say, but in the world I see there is a lot of aggression and there are things happening which are for profit but which are not passive.

Maybe we should be asking how to get rid of greed in our society, rather than how to control the anger that it produces in other people, if that's even possible. Look, why do you think there is so much talk of stress? Everybody's angry at something, but they can't do anything about it. It's easier to go home with your face in the right place, rather than try to sow up a bloody lip, right?

I believe what you say about anger being an evolutionary tool for survival but I think that there is more to it than that. Anger in our society today does not keep us alive. As civilised people we can see the purpose of anger in our past and also we can ask ourselves what purpose does it serve us now? I definately don't think that it achieves anything as positive as our survival.

If you live on the grid and you're in the hive, then yeah, why would you be angry at anything? If there are any prolems, you push one button and the police arrives, that's if they're around, but they're usually not, especially if you live in the ghetto. So, just let people walk all over you, and bottle it up for all I care..

I don't have an answer, I'm looking for answers.
That's what everybody says..

--Bart

[WILLIAMS]

What is it about anger that makes it be?
Why is it that an emotion exists which is destructive?
If happiness feels so good, why is it sometimes so hard to achieve?
Why does anger fit so comfortably on some people?
I hate anger.
It makes me so...angry.

I think it's confusion, or to do with confusion. I think people who don't understand, get angry. It's an ego thing.
I think that there is the finest line between one person's line of thought from any other person's. And I think that any one person could understand any other person completely with the most minute amount of effort; if only that effort was so directed.
At the same time I understand the vast differences between each and every one of us. It's one of those paradoxical dualities.
I think people think that the differenes between us come down to the nuances and idiosyncracies which define us, but perhaps its more to do with our environment that makes us different from each other. For example, imagine being born on a different planet amongst beings unlike us; our potential may allow us to adapt to this environment and succeed in such a way that we would not resemble ourselves as we are on this planet.
But I just don't know.


Lead by example. You be nice and let others follow.

[chrisforbes]

What is it about anger that makes it be?
Why is it that an emotion exists which is destructive?
If happiness feels so good, why is it sometimes so hard to achieve?
Why does anger fit so comfortably on some people?
I hate anger.
It makes me so...angry.

I think it's confusion, or to do with confusion. I think people who don't understand, get angry. It's an ego thing.
I think that there is the finest line between one person's line of thought from any other person's. And I think that any one person could understand any other person completely with the most minute amount of effort; if only that effort was so directed.
At the same time I understand the vast differences between each and every one of us. It's one of those paradoxical dualities.
I think people think that the differenes between us come down to the nuances and idiosyncracies which define us, but perhaps its more to do with our environment that makes us different from each other. For example, imagine being born on a different planet amongst beings unlike us; our potential may allow us to adapt to this environment and succeed in such a way that we would not resemble oursWhile elves as we are on this planet.
But I just don't know.

anger is a physical form that as a human being is natural to the survival of the species. While I may not agree with it on an intellectual level it is in our nature. Maybe o!!e day we way evolve.

[chrisforbes]

You seem to know quite a bit.

For a man so smart you do not provide many solutions. Is this yor legacy smart objective comments?

[anisia]

me too i anger .. it makes me so angry , yeah , i agree , very wisdom words

[Barakyard]

Anger is an emotion characterized by antagonism toward someone or something you feel has deliberately done you wrong. But excessive anger can cause problems. Increased blood pressure and other physical changes associated with anger make it difficult to think straight.